“Why Are There Different Names For Different Pulses?”

Today I had a great question come in through our customer solutions department. Here’s what it said.
“What and why are the pulses of different ages called different things and what are they called?”

Well, I understood this to mean, what are the different locations for the different age groups in cardiac arrest or unconsciousness and so I gave the following answer.

Hello,

Thank you so much for your question. It’s a great question and I think I might be able to shed some light on it.

It can be a little confusing some times as we try and decode the reason why certain things in medicine are named what they are. Basic Life Support is not immune to this same situation. In regards to the names of “pulses” and how they are named according to the age or size of the patient, I’ll try to clarify.

If I understand your question correctly, you’re talking about the three locations of the pulse check.

1. Radial, which is found in the wrist of the patient, usually used for patients who are adult or child size. Older than 1 year of age. This location is used for general pulse rate and quality but not usually for the unconscious patient.
2. Brachial, which is found in the bicep/tricep region of the upper arm on the inside of the arm. This is the location for an unconscious infant, age 1 year or younger.
3. Carotid, which is found in the neck. This would be located between the trachea and the sternocleidomastoid muscle(located on the side of the neck). One can really see this muscle well when one turns their head to one side or the other. This would be the location of choice for the adult and child(older than 1 year) unconscious patient.

There is yet another location used in emergency medicine but not usually pre-hospital and that would be the femoral artery. This is located in the groin of the patient and again is usually used for trauma patients that have C-Spine collar or the carotid is not easily accessed due to intubation etc.

The reason to use the brachial over the carotid for an infant is primarily due to the fact that most baby’s don’t have necks to speak of. They have milk catching folds of skin but other than that, their anatomy is such that an area to evaluate an accurate carotid pulse is not easily obtained. Therefore, the brachial artery is the location of choice and works extremely well for the health care professional to ascertain whether a pulse is present or absent.

In most cases for adults and children over the age of 1 year, the carotid artery is the location of choice to check for pulse presence due to it being the last place to feel a pulse prior to the blood pressure being too low to feel a pulse regardless of whether the heart is beating or not. Secondly, it’s next to the location where we are performing a head tilt and chin lift while giving rescue breaths and is convenient to the rescuer for checking pulse presence(little perk).

So, though the names of the locations can be a little challenging, they do make great scrabble words, or can make you look really intelligent at dinner parties. Remember, it’s not the feeling of a pulse that will determine if we’re going to start cardiac compressions or not, It’s the absence of signs of life that will determine that. This includes, unconscious and unresponsiveness and that the patient is not breathing normally or not breathing at all. If these two signs are present, begin CPR. Pulse checks have often given false readings and postponed cardiac compressions in a patient who needed cardiac compressions desperately.

I hope this helps anyone who may have had the same question.

Best wishes and keep on rescuing!

Roy
RoyOnRescue.com


Roy W. Shaw, EMT-Paramedic
Director of Training and Compliance

ProTrainings.com

When A Person’s Choking, How Do I Know When It Comes Out?

In this episode of RoyOnRescue, Roy answers a question that came in via email regarding a situation where the person did the abdominal thrusts but the object did not come out to the best of their knowledge. Should they keep doing chest compressions or is there something else that can be done to get the foreign body out of the victim’s airway. Be sure to watch this episode to get the answer.

 

CPR With A Knife In The Chest?

Hello Everyone!

On this episode of RoyOnRescue, Roy answers a question that came in some time ago about how to do CPR if the person has an object imbedded in their chest.  Roy sheds some light on the simple yet affective way to rescue without causing harm to yourself and to the patient.  If you’ve ever wondered what to do if a person had a knife in the chest and was in cardiac arrest, you’ll want to watch this video blog.

RoyOnRescue Team

RoyOnRescue End Of Year Wrap Up

In this latest episode of RoyOnRescue, Roy takes a moment to thank everyone for a great year while showing you around the Corporate Office of RoyOnRescue and ProTrainings.com.  Though a few of the professionals may have been caught off guard, you get a chance to see behind the scenes as Roy thanks you and the team for all of the support in 2011.

Enjoy,

RoyOnRescue.com

What’s The Difference Between A TIA(Transient Ischemic Attack) and A Stroke?

In this RoyOnRescue videoblog I answer a request to expound on TIA’s or Transient Ischemic Attacks.  I found a great definition at this link.

This “mini stroke” can last from a couple of minutes to around a half hour and looks and acts like a full blown stroke.  Take a look at this RoyOnRescue post to learn the difference and what you should do if you come across someone who shows these signs and symptoms.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Roy, RoyOnRescue.com

My Baby Is Having A Seizure, What Do I Do?

Hello Everyone!

I received a question regarding infants having seizures and the proper treatment for them.  

The person asked if  it’s proper to handle the patient the same as an adult?  This is a great question and one I wanted to address a little more in depth than a simple reply by email.

First, it’s important to understand what a seizure is.  The following is a quote by  physician, Dr. Fawn Leigh from Duke Health who did a great job describing the two different categories of seizures and how they manifest themselves.

Click here to see the complete article located at:  http://www.dukehealth.org/health_library/advice_from_doctors/your_childs_health/childhoodseizures

“Seizures are divided into two major categories (based on 1981 international classification):

  • Generalized seizures affect the whole brain or both hemispheres of the brain
  • Partial seizures, also known as focal seizures, affect one part or one side of the brain

Generalized Seizures

Generalized seizures are divided into convulsive and nonconvulsive. Convulsive means that there is muscle movement such as stiffening (also known as tonic) or jerking (clonic) activity. When these movements are combined it may be called “grand mal.”

Other types of convulsive seizure activity include myoclonic and atonic seizure activity. Myoclonus is usually characterized by sudden, single jerks. Atonic seizure activity is typically characterized by dropping quickly to the floor as if suddenly asleep or paralyzed. The child then quickly recovers.

These two latter convulsive seizure types can both be difficult to diagnose and treat because often they are the manifestation of a mixed seizure disorder. In infants these seizures may be called infantile spasms.

Nonconvulsive means that there is alteration of consciousness without muscle movement. This form of seizure activity was formerly called “petit mal,” and is now commonly referred to as “absence.”

Absence seizures are unique in that typically they are characterized by an abrupt onset of staring and end just as abruptly with no confused state following the events. Parents usually report that the child looks like they are “spacing out.” (Teenagers who look like this often are not having seizures — they are simply bored.)

Partial Seizures

Partial seizures can be simple or complex. Simple partial seizures are focal seizures that involve movement or sensation on one side of the body without altered consciousness. Simple partial seizures are commonly localized to areas in the brain called the motor or sensory strip.

Partial seizures may be with or without aura, which involves associated states such as fear, or changes in heart rate, flushing, or abdominal discomfort.

Complex partial seizures commonly originate from the frontal and temporal lobes of the brain where there are many complex interconnections, resulting in alteration of conscious. Typical complex partial seizures manifest as sudden change in level of alertness with or without aura, blank stare, confusional state, or aimless movements such as wandering around or repetitive behavior.”

DukeHealth.org (http://www.dukehealth.org/health_library/advice_from_doctors/your_childs_health/childhoodseizures)

 

Second, it’s important to understand what the main cuases of seizures are:

  • Fever
  • Infection such as meningitis
  • Trauma
  • Hemorrhage
  • Brain malformations
  • Brain dysmaturity
  • Genetic disorder

Thirdly, when it comes to treating an infant compared to an adult, it’s a bit easier, though not any less intense especially if it’s your child.  It’s physically easier because baby is smaller and easier to manage.

If this seizure is with a child who has never had a seizure before, 911 or Emergency Medical Services should be activated.  The rescuer is going to  follow National and International guidelines for treating a seizure patient.  Protect the baby from hurting itself while seizing.  If it’s in a bath tub, drain the bath tub of water so as to reduce the risk of drowning and then protect the child from hurting itself while seizing.  Nothing should be put into it’s mouth which is old school for seizure management in trying to prevent “swallowing the tongue” or biting the tongue off.  It is also important that we not try and prevent the baby’s body from convulsing by holding it still or wrapping them tightly.  Simply protect it’s head and other parts of it’s body from hitting anything during the convulsive stage of the seizure.  After the seizure is over, the baby will usually go into a post seizure phase called the “postictal” phase, and there may be some frothy sputum(spit) around the baby’s mouth or in its nose. A bulb syringe normally used for suctioning mucous or sinus congestion could be used to suction or clear the baby’s nasal passage but it is probably not as necessary as we’d like to think.  As a general rule, baby’s have a great gag reflex and if they have any mucous or sputum in their upper airway, it will probably be coughed clear.  If the baby begins to breath after the seizure, it could be irregular with some grunting for a short time and then increasingly get more normal.  Skin color if it has changed during the seizure to a dusky, purple or blue color should improve as the baby begins breathing more normal and it is perfectly acceptable to comfort the baby in a natural position while maintaining a neutral airway in order for it to recover from the seizure.

If it does not begin breathing, begin basic cardiac life support according to the latest ECC/ILCOR and American Heart Association guidelines. Courtesy of ProFirstAid.com, a Free Online infant CPR training video is available by clicking here!

As many as 2-5% of all children will experience at least one seizure related to a fever over 102 degrees Fahrenheit.  The seizure itself is usually harmless and does not cause brain damage nor lead to epilepsy.

Seizures in any age patient can be very scary, and the causes of a seizure are many.  Therefore, if it’s the first seizure the person has ever had, we should plan for the worst and hope for the best.  This can be done by calling the emergency medical services or 911 depending on your area.  Support the patient with basic first aid procedures while waiting for rescuers to arrive and then follow up with your pediatrician after the baby is stable.

If your baby is having a high fever and your afraid that it may cause a febrile seizure, there are some basic steps to help lower your baby’s temperature.  Click here to read an article about how to lower a body temperature from a fever.

 

Well,  I hope this helps and I appreciate the great questions so many of you have been asking.  Keep them coming and while your waiting for a response, keep on saving lives!

 

Best Wishes,

Roy

RoyOnRescue.com

royonrescue@gmail.com

 

16 Year Old Dies Suddenly On Basketball Court!

In this episode, Roy talks about a terrible tragedy where a 16 year old athlete made the winning shot, was greeted by teammates on the basketball court and suddenly collapsed in sudden cardiac arrest. Later it is revealed that the young man had a not so un-common condition. Learn how to recognize symptoms surrounding this condition, how to respond to an emergency that arises from this condition and how to detect it before it may be too late.
Our hearts go out to the family and friends of this young man. May God bless and comfort them all.

RoyOnRescue Team
royonrescue@gmail.com

Chest Truama and CPR. To Do, Or Not To Do?

This week Roy answers a question that came all the way from France where a student asked a great question about how to perform CPR if a person has had major trauma to their chest after a motor vehicle accident. You know, starting CPR on a victim can be a difficult decision to make in any normal situation, then add the complication of internal or external truama and without guidance,  it may be a temptation to avoid providing CPR all together. On this episode of RoyOnRescue, Roy Shaw, EMT-Paramedic and Trainer sheds some light on why it’s okay to perform CPR on a person with a chest injury  or on someone who has recently had thoracic surgery and what to consider while providing this life saving skill.

 

Be sure to keep the questions coming and send them to:

royonrescue@gmail.com


What’s Been Going On With RoyOnRescue?

Hello Everyone,

Well, it’s been crazy in the ProTrainings.com camp, but it’s all been great!   Updating all of the 2010 CPR and First Aid manuals and workbooks, creating the new ProTrainings Instructor program and expanding further into the UK market.  All very exciting.  I’m hoping to bring some new subject matter into the RoyOnRescue.com program and maybe even implement a USTREAM.com RoyOnRescue live program.  All to be seen but I can tell you, your comments regarding it would be really helpful. Let me know if a live show where you could call in, chat live, email questions and interact while I’m hosting the show would be helpful, fun or just a waste of time.  Let me know what time of day and on what day would work best too.  Tuesdays -Thursdays or Fridays between 8am and 3pm EST.  Let me know what kind of topics you’d like me to cover too.  Would you like to see more interviews with victims, rescuers or both?  And regarding the video shoot today, sorry to record while cruising down the highway to my next meeting but I wanted to let everyone know where I’ve been and what’s been going on.  Time is a very expensive commodity but I didn’t want to miss another week.  P.S.  When ever you get a video capture while I’m driving, please note that safety measures are in place to ensure there is no danger while recording to me or to anyone else.

Best Wishes,

Roy

RoyOnRescue.com

But The Family Said…DO NOT RESUSCITATE!

A student emailed in a great question and one in which can be a very tough one to answer!      It’s challenging enough to get bystanders to begin CPR.  But when we complicate the scenario with a person yelling; “They have a DNR, don’t do CPR or you’ll get sued!”   This can really complicate matters.  What do you do?   Stop CPR and hope that the withholding of potentially life saving CPR is legitimate?  Don’t stop CPR and continue to upset the people that are yelling stop in the first place?   Whoa! Tough spot to be in.

In this episode I’m going to do my best to explain the very complicated issue surrounding Do Not Resuscitate orders(DNR) when CPR is already in progress or about to begin.

Sample of Proposed DNR Guidelines From BENO-Ethics